LAX beanpot, sick idea

fordham u should have one. perfect area for recruiting

nc state used to have one but got rid of it.

Great ideas, and growing the game is a huge responsibility, but the problem does not lie in in where to expand, but how can we, or more aptly, why are we not.

What I mean by this is, back in the day when an institution such as UConn had a Div. 1 lax team (perfect example), it was all gravy, but then a small piece of legislation aimed at including the better half into athletics was passed. Years later those behind the movement had no idea of the negative ramifications.

Title IX did do its job, including women into intercollegiate athletics, but at what cost. Not only did title IX set regulations on equal number of sports per institution, but also equal spending back in 1972. That is why Michigan, Texas and even Northwestern will never compete at the NCAA Div. 1 level, funding. Big schools west of the Mississippi that might make for intriguing additions to NCAA Division 1 lacrosse have too much money tied up in football.

Unless Title IX is changed we can forget about seeing Chapman vs. Syracuse in a coast to coast final somewhere down the line. It will be a matter of time before the Wolverines knock of a bigger named opponent in another scrimmage but the same can’t be said for their NCAA participation. The MCLA will continue to shoulder a significant load over the next decade as the game continues to expand on the west side, hopefully it is aware of its responsibility.

University of Florida, FSU, Michigan all would be awesome places to get big time D1 programs at. If they could develop some top 10 teams can you imagine the atmosphere and the crowds at the games?

Good post. The only thing is Chapman is a D3 school. To add D1 lacrosse, they would need to move all their sports to D1.

not true…hopkins has D1 lax obviously but has other D3 sports like baseball

Christiano, Hopkins is a D3 school with D1 Lax. Im not sure why but Chapman could look into that. Now that I think about it though, JHU may have been Grandfathered in. Can anyone clarify?

what makes a team a D1 team is the amount of funding put into the specific sport. JHU is a perfect example. the same with Bryant U. It all depends on how much money the athletic department allots to that specific team. Syracuse for example, all their teams (that I know of) are D1 and thats because they have the funding for all the teams. Notre Dame is another great example. mostly because they have a shitload of money to give to every sport. The more money you have, the more D1 athletic programs you have.

In an attempt to shed a little light on the D. III/D.I disparity this is what I know:

St. Lawrence (home of the ULB): M&W Ice Hockey
Clarkson: M&W Ice Hockey
RPI: M&W Ice Hockey
Colorado College: Men’s Hockey, Women’s Soccer
Hartwick: Men’s soccer, Women’s Water Polo
Hopkins: M&W’s Lax (obviosuly)
Rutgers: M’s Volleyball

-Note the gender balance
These institutions were grandfathered in to give scholarships.

The following institutions are not permitted to give scholarships because they were not grandfathered in.

Hobart: M’s Lax
Franklin and Marshall: M’s wrestling
Trinity College: M’s Squash
Lawrence University: Fencing
RIT: M’s Ice Hockey
Union College: M’s and W’s Hockey

That’s the general situation.

University of Richmond….located in Virginia…they need to step it up

Great post, however my school (Michigan State) used to have a D1 program and never really did anything. Look at Ohio State, Penn State, and ND. All huge football schools but haven’t really translated to lax success.

I’m worried that with the growth of HS lax, there’s going to be so much talent out there and not enough clubs to take them. What if (purely hypothetical) MCLA & DIII started to rival D1 programs? Would the NCAA be forced to expand?

Chapman wont ever go; as hot as the WC states are getting about lax, there’s still not enough talent to justify large football school shelling out the cash.

They key is really in Michigan’s hands: If they moved to D1, Michigan State would likely follow suite. With the possibility of Syracuse moving into the Big 10 (at least in lax)& trying to snag ND, that would justify the Big 10 recognizing mens lax. I wouldn’t hold my breath tho, my buddy is Michigans goalie and said it might have happened if it wasn’t for the economy, but now he said that no one has seriously discussed it at big blue in almost a year. And with the football team still in disarray it might be even later.

Michigan has a bigger budget than most Div. III programs because of huge alumni backing/funding. That makes them successful (in addition to bringing in talent). If they were to go Div. I, I’m not sure how the NCAA would regulate that spending and I’m not sure how the University would take funds from other programs, redistribute those funds to lax, and undertake another women’s sport and fund that as well, as title ix requires.

Thats why I think it is less about the economy and more about legislation/red tape.

wisconsin…so many students from the east coast it almost makes me want to vomit, but hey they are good laxers…not to mention the explosion of lacrosse in minnesota at the high school level (even though there (u of m) club program blows). wisco just switched to mcla and are already preseason top 20, so we will see how they make the transition to the “bigs” of club lax. considering there are former d1 and d3 players on the roster, i think they will do alright

Salisbury. Should definitely be at least D2

there already is a lax beanpot but it’s between all the schools club lax, kinda sucks but its still pretty straight. a d1 beanpot would be nice

If title IX didnt exist i would def say byu. it already has pretty sick athletics, and its lax team is very dirty.  But chapman and mich both need d1 lax to happen too.

If title IX didnt exist i would def say byu. it already has pretty sick athletics, and its lax team is very dirty.  But chapman and mich both need d1 lax to happen too.

dude dont forget boston u

Wake Forest, Boston College, Clemson, VA Tech. Those are some ACC schools that should be in D1.

Austin laxer here, Texas is absolute garbage and a long way from going d1. They got beat by an austin men’s team made up primarily of high school coaches (from the east coast). The first university to go d1 would probably be tcu or smu, then texas and then tech.

I think its safe to say if USC, UCLA, or Florida got D1 lacrosse teams they would have no problem at all become top 10 teams.

hahahah i play for USC…and as much as i love the comment above…there is no way any of those 3 teams including my own, USC, could ever compete with the likes of Syracuse and Hopkins

so cal lax, your post makes no sense. If USC were to add a NCAA lacrosse team, you would be cut immediately. Essentially everyone on the club team would. They would bring in a huge class of brand new recruits and it would be a completely different team. That goes for pretty much every MCLA team looking to add D1 lax.

Same goes to BROTX.

And to put it to rest, there is absolutely no way Salisbury or Chapman get a D1 team unless all of their sports move to D1.

Whoever said fordham is perfect for recruiting baffles me, i understand that New York is a lax hotbed but fordham is in the bronx, not exactly the most appealing place for lax bros.

But i’m diggin the lax beanpot. Massachusetts is second only to Maryland when it comes to participation in lax, between that, and the rest of the northeast i’m sure they could all put together solid programs.

Mass is actually like 6th or 7th for lax. Inbetween is NY, NJ, PA,CT, and then Mass.

Title IX has crippled the growth of DI mens lax but because of it DIII is becoming very level across the board.  The top 10 D I teams will always be able to smoke anyone in D III but after that its up in the air.  The NCAA has to do something to support the fastest growing sport in America they are for thr women… (NCAA not Bro)